tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760510394284678173.post3130861088133865627..comments2013-04-22T13:21:39.388-07:00Comments on TOC Journey: Shop floor insights – winners and losersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760510394284678173.post-3894300501618259432011-10-15T14:24:40.271-07:002011-10-15T14:24:40.271-07:00Hi Orion,
I don't think that win-lose is an op...Hi Orion,<br />I don't think that win-lose is an option, definitely not for the long term. It may be good for a while, if one is on the right side :-), but surely enough things will be changed. It looks as the situation between the Israelis and the Palestinian is a perfect example (without getting into politics). No common goal and until such a goal will be defined (if one has enough patienceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760510394284678173.post-87128186271087764392011-10-09T12:31:38.177-07:002011-10-09T12:31:38.177-07:00Henry,
Thanks!
The thing that strikes me the most...Henry, <br />Thanks!<br />The thing that strikes me the most about win-lose is that it doesn't even work when there is no common goal. The way I see it, in real life no one likes to lose, so no one really feels like "showing good sportmanship". Oh, we may be gracefull losers when a game is being played, but in real life losing is usually a tough blow. Revenge is easy and it is Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10254355821573616950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760510394284678173.post-48694512087500410892011-10-09T07:23:39.606-07:002011-10-09T07:23:39.606-07:00Hi Orion,
I like your post. It supports what I se...Hi Orion,<br />I like your post. It supports what I see and this excellent presentation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc<br /><br />Win-Lose can work for the winner, for a while, even when the two sides have the same goal. The problem with Win-Lose is that, after a time, the loser no longer agrees with the winner's goal. That's how the winner ends up losing.<br />-Henry CampHenry Fitzhugh Camphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08969246722207943621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760510394284678173.post-5137220117411928912011-10-08T03:17:19.989-07:002011-10-08T03:17:19.989-07:00Avraham,
Thanks for the clarification. I stand cor...Avraham,<br />Thanks for the clarification. I stand corrected.<br />One thing does come to my mind, though - do you think that in such situations (no common goal) there is an option for a win-lose solution?<br />Regards<br />OrionAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10254355821573616950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760510394284678173.post-17148179985647344192011-10-07T11:44:53.083-07:002011-10-07T11:44:53.083-07:00Hi Orion, in the beginning of the article you ment...Hi Orion, in the beginning of the article you mentioned the "win-win" concept and you said that "for every conflict a solution in which nobody loses is feasible". I don't agree. Your statement is correct only when it is possible to define a common objective for the two sides of the conflict. This is not always the case. There are conflicts with no common objective and thenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com